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    So I thought this issue was all settled, I tell my manager I'm turning down the position, Case closed. Yesterday I found out another position opened up at the same location, this is a promotion, it's a good 20k more a year, possibly more, larger bonuses too. Not sure if I can keep turning down every opportunity than comes in, after all it's now 7 months till my location closes. I'm giving this job serious consideration, I think I can suffer for 2 or 3 years until something in the south opens up. While my position on the crappy weather hasn't changed, promotions at my level do not come up all that often, and once I'm in this position for at least a year, a lateral move is far easier than getting a promotion. And if worse comes to worse, after a few years, I'll look outside the company. While I can technically look outside the company today for another job, I'm under a retention bonus contractual obligation, until Oct, 2019. If I leave the company before than I have to pay back a 15k bonus and I miss out on another 15k payment. Since both cyber security positions will be vacant within a month, I will have a lot of leverage salary wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechGromit View Post
    So I thought this issue was all settled, I tell my manager I'm turning down the position, Case closed. Yesterday I found out another position opened up at the same location, this is a promotion, it's a good 20k more a year, possibly more, larger bonuses too. Not sure if I can keep turning down every opportunity than comes in, after all it's now 7 months till my location closes. I'm giving this job serious consideration, I think I can suffer for 2 or 3 years until something in the south opens up. While my position on the crappy weather hasn't changed, promotions at my level do not come up all that often, and once I'm in this position for at least a year, a lateral move is far easier than getting a promotion. And if worse comes to worse, after a few years, I'll look outside the company. While I can technically look outside the company today for another job, I'm under a retention bonus contractual obligation, until Oct, 2019. If I leave the company before than I have to pay back a 15k bonus and I miss out on another 15k payment. Since both cyber security positions will be vacant within a month, I will have a lot of leverage salary wise.
    As someone who moved 700 miles south, I can confidently say $20k would not be enough to take me to Rochester, NY.

    I hate cold weather and gray skies that seem to be relentless November-April. If that matters to you, don't do it. If you think you won't mind, buy a shovel and a car with remote start and enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam220891 View Post
    ...buy a shovel and a car with remote start and enjoy.
    This guy knows exactly what he's talking about! I kept a shovel in the trunk of my car in case of emergency as you can expect the unexpected. Recently got a remote-start installed on my car as we had a few weeks of freezing weather for the first time in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiddenknight821 View Post
    This guy knows exactly what he's talking about! I kept a shovel in the trunk of my car in case of emergency as you can expect the unexpected. Recently got a remote-start installed on my car as we had a few weeks of freezing weather for the first time in a few years.
    It's just a reality for those living in the NE. Some people love it. Some are indifferent and it's just what happens in the winter. Others, like me, can't stand it and would rather have insufferable swamp ass for half the year.

    I'm realistic about where I stand. If it's not a big deal, you're crazy not to take the raise (assuming nothing else is keeping you in an area). But if it is a big deal, think carefully about if it is really worth it.

    I'd take it and then get out the ol' resume since it seems like it's not a huge deal for you (then again, maybe it really is).
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    From 16" of snow a year to 83" on average. You state a good case to move considering the promotion, the raise, and your current employment obligations. But visualize shoveling 18 additional feet of snow over those three years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoba222 View Post
    From 16" of snow a year to 83" on average. You state a good case to move considering the promotion, the raise, and your current employment obligations. But visualize shoveling 18 additional feet of snow over those three years.
    Yea it's gonna suck, but in the long run I believe will be beneficial. The rents are lower, but I'm sure the heating bills will make up for the difference, As for remote start, a place with a garage is a requirement for me, not dealing with clearing snow and ice off the car in the morning. If I really hate it I just need to stick it out for 18 months till I get my retention bonu$.
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    Hey TechGromit,

    Congrats on the new position. I'm not that far from you. I'm in the Syracuse area. Rochester has it's perks. They have a good hackerspace out there, and R.I.T. hosts BSides Rochester every year, which is an awesome conference to go to. Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions or after you get settled.
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    @ Adam - Agreed 100% No way I could deal with the cold and snow, even for a 20 k bump. But we are all different and have our own objectives. I'm early 40's and my knees and neck ache when it gets those extreme temps.

    Spent a year in Minnesota and that was enough for me to realize up top wasn't for me.......

    Either way, good luck on your decision I am sure you will do just fine.
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    I haven't lived in the Northeast in years, and I understand the weather being a concern as I like the South mid-West winters since they are shorter. I don't mind the snow so much, but I do hate the months of dreary, cloudy days But for the right job opportunity, I'd probably give it a whirl, especially being single and unencumbered with a mortgage.
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